Finance and Insurance - The Profit Center I would like to make myself clear on a few items of interest before I get too deep into the sales processes at any dealership, including: automobile, recreational vehicles, boats, motorcycle, and even furniture or other big ticket items. A business has to turn a fair profit in order to stay in business. I believe that they should make this profit and use it to pay better quality employees a premium wage in order to serve you better. The financial strengths or weaknesses of any business can definitely have a dramatic effect on your customer service and satisfaction. I do not, in any shape or form, wish to hurt a dealerships profitability, as it is essential for his survival. I merely want to advise people how to negotiate a little better in order to make the profit center more balanced. Let's get right down to this! Every dealership has a finance and insurance department. This department is a huge profit center in any dealership. In some cases, it earns more money than the sale of the automobile itself. Profits are made from many things that most buyers do not understand. You as a consumer should understand the "flow" of the sales process to understand the profit centers that are ahead of you. Most negotiating from the consumer seems to stop after the original price is negotiated and agreed upon. Let's examine just a small portion of what leads up to that point. The first thing that every consumer should understand is that when you go to a dealership several things come into play. One of the most important things that I could point out to you is that you are dealing with a business that has been trained to get the most amount of money from you as they can. They are trained and they practice these tactics everyday, day after day, week after week, month after month, and year after year. Let me point out a couple of important facts that I have said in this paragraph. First, you'll notice that I said a dealership and not a salesman and secondly, I emphasized times of day after day, week after week, etc. etc. This was done to let you know that the salesman is working very closely with the sales managers in order to make as much money as he can. Your interests are really not their objective in most cases. One tactic that is used heavily in the business is that the salesman says he is new to the business. This may be true or not, however; keep in mind that he does not work alone. He is working with store management, who gives him advice on what to say and when to say it. These guys or gals are very well trained on how to overcome every objection that you may have to buying from them. They have been trained in the psychology of the buyer and how to tell what your "hot buttons" are. They listen to things in your conversation that you may say to one another as well as to the salesman. They are trained to tell their desk managers everything that you say and then the desk manager is trained to tell the salesman exactly what and how to answer you. A seasoned salesman does not need as much advice from his desk and may negotiate a little more with you directly without going back and forth. The process of negotiation begins the moment that you walk into the front door or step foot out of your car and begin to look at vehicles. Different stores display inventory in different ways. This is done for crowd control or more commonly known as "up control". Control is the first step in negotiating with a customer. Ever who asks the questions controls the situation. Let me give you an example: A salesman walks up to you and says "Welcome to ABC motors, my name is Joe, and what is yours?" The salesman has just asked the first question- you answer "My name is George." He then asks you what you are looking for today, or; the famous "Can I help You?" As you can see, step after step, question after question, he leads you down a path that he is trained to do. Many times a well trained salesperson will not answer your questions directly. In some cases, they only respond to questions with other questions in order to avert the loss of control. An example of this could be something like you asking the salesman if he has this same car with an automatic rather than a stick shift. Two responses could come back to you. One would be yes or no, the other could very well be something along the lines of: 'don't you know how to drive a stick shift?" In the second response the salesman gained more information from you in order to close you. Closing means to overcome every objection and give your customer no way out other than where do I sign. The art of selling truly is a science of well scripted roll playing and rehearsal. We have established that the negotiating process begins with a series of questions. These questions serve as two main elements of the sales process. First and foremost is to establish rapport and control. The more information that you are willing to share with you salesman in the first few minutes gives him a greater control of the sales process. He has gathered mental notes on our ability to purchase such as whether you have a trade in or not, if you have a down payment, how much can you afford, are you the only decision maker (is there a spouse?), how is your credit, or do you have a payoff on your trade in? These are one of many pieces of information that they collect immediately. Secondly, this information is used to begin a conversation with store management about who the salesman is with, what are they looking for, and what is their ability to purchase. Generally, a sales manager then directs the sales process from his seat in the "tower". A seat that generally overlooks the sales floor or the sales lot. He is kind of like a conductor of an orchestra, seeing all, and hearing all. I cannot describe the entire sales process with you as this varies from dealer to dealer, however; the basic principals of the sale do not vary too much. Most dealerships get started after a demo or test drive. Usually a salesman gets a sheet of paper out that is called a four square. The four square is normally used to find the customer's "hot points". The four corners of the sheet have the following items addressed, not necessarily in this order. Number one is sales price, number two is trade value, number three is down payment, and number four is monthly payments. The idea here is to reduce three out of the four items and focus on YOUR hot button. Every person settles in on something different. The idea for the salesman is to get you to focus and commit to one or two of the hot buttons without even addressing the other two or three items. When you do settle in on one of the items on the four square, the process of closing you becomes much easier. One thing to keep in mind is that all four items are usually negotiable and are usually submitted to you the first time in a manner as to maximize the profit that the dealer earns on the deal. Usually the MSRP is listed unless there is a sales price that is advertised (in may cases the vehicle is advertised, but; you are not aware). The trade value is usually first submitted to you as wholesale value. Most dealers request 25-33% down payment. Most monthly payments are inflated using maximum rate. What this all boils down to is that the price is usually always negotiable, the trade in is definitely negotiable, the down payment may be what you choose, and the monthly payment and interest rates are most certainly negotiable. If you do your homework prior to a dealership visit you can go into the negotiation process better armed. You still need to keep two things in mind through this process. The first item is that you are dealing with a sales TEAM that is usually highly skilled and money motivated. The more you pay the more they earn. The second item to remember is that you may have done your homework and think that you are getting a great deal and the dealer is still making a lot of money. The latter part of this statement goes back to the fact that it is essential for a dealer to make a "fair" profit in order to serve you better. Once your negotiations are somewhat settled, you are then taken to the business or finance department to finalize your paperwork. Keep in mind that this too is another negotiating process. In fact, the finance manager is usually one of the top trained sales associates that definitely knows all the ins and outs of maximizing the dealerships profit. It is in the finance department that many dealers actually earn more than they earned by selling the car, boat, RV, or other large ticket item to you. We will break these profit centers down for you and enlighten you as to how the process usually works. Remember that finance people are more often than not a superior skilled negotiator that is still representing the dealership. It may seem that he or she has your best interests at heart, but; they are still profit centered. The real problem with finance departments are that the average consumer has just put his or her guard down. They have just negotiated hard for what is assumed to be a good deal. They have taken this deal at full faced value and assume that all negotiations are done. The average consumer doesn't even have an understanding of finances or how the finance department functions. The average consumer nearly "lays down" for anything that the finance manager says. The interest rate is one of the largest profit centers in the finance department. For example, the dealership buys the interest rate from the bank the same way that he buys the car from the manufacturer. He may only have to pay 6% to the bank for a $25,000 loan. He can then charge you 8% for that same $25,000. The dealer is paid on the difference. If this is a five year loan that amount could very well be $2,000. So the dealer makes an additional $2,000 profit on the sale when the bank funds the loan. This is called a rate spread or "reserves". In mortgages, this is disclosed at time of closing on the HUD-1 statement as Yield Spread Premium. This may also be disclosed on the Good Faith Estimate or GFE. You can see why it becomes important to understand bank rates and financing. Many finance managers use a menu to sell aftermarket products to you. This process is very similar to the four square process that I discussed in the beginning. There are usually items like gap insurance, extended service contracts, paint and fabric guard, as well as many other after market products available from this dealer. The menu again is usually stacked up to be presented to the consumer in a way that the dealer maximizes his profitability if you take the best plan available. The presentation is usually given in a manner in which the dealer wins no matter what options are chosen. With the additional items being pitched to you at closing, your mind becomes less entrenched on the rates and terms and your focus then turns to the after market products. Each aftermarket item can very well make the dealer up to 300-400% over what he pays for these items. Gap coverage for example may cost the dealer $195.00 and is sold to the consumer for $895.00. The $700.00 is pure profit to the dealer and is very rarely negotiated down during this process. The service contract may only cost a dealer $650.00 and is being sold for $2000.00. The difference in these items are pure profit to the dealer. You see, if you only paid $995.00 for the same contract, the dealer still earns $345.00 profit from you and you still have the same coverage that you would have had if you had paid the $2000.00. The same is true for the gap coverage. You are covered the same if you paid $395.00 or $895.00 if the dealers costs are only $195.00. The only difference is the amount of profit that you paid to the dealer. Another huge profit center is paint and fabric protector. In most cases the costs to apply the product are minimal (around $125.00 on average). In many cases the dealer charges you $1200-$1800 for this paint and fabric guard. As you can see, these products sold in the finance department are huge profit centers and are negotiable. I also have to recommend the value of most all products sold in a finance department. It is in your best interest to get the best coverage possible at the best price possible. Always remember this: The dealer has to make a fair profit to stay in business. It just doesn't have to be all out of your pocket.

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Top Ten Tips on Car Finance Along with buying a house another major investment that many people face today is purchasing a vehicle. Certainly with the cost of fuel on the increase buying a car that provides everything that one needs but is also economical is crucial today. In this article we offer the top ten tips on car finance so that you get the best deal possible when purchasing a new or used vehicle. Tip 1 - Set a Budget - Once you have decided just how much you are willing to spend on your dream vehicle then you need to make sure that you stick with it. It is important when setting your budget you make a list of the features that you want your car to have. Do you want one with a large boot? Do you want one that provides ample room for all the family to be seated in it comfortably and safely? Are you after a diesel, petrol or a hybrid car? Tip 2 - Do Some Research - The internet is the best place to look for information on the kinds of cars you are considering buying including what sort of price you can expect to pay for them. This information can also be found in magazines but by going online you can do it for free and it can all be done in the comfort of your own home. As you do carry out your research look for information relating to any manufacturers recalls on a vehicle. Plus check out when certain tasks need to be carried out such as the changing of the cam belt as this can prove to be a very expensive repair. Tip 3 - Speak to Friends - If your friends or someone else you know has the car that you are considering buying then ask them for their opinion on it. Ask them not just how well it does in relation to fuel consumption but how reliable the car is also. Tip 4 - Compare The Prices - Along with looking through local newspapers search online so that you can compare the prices of the cars you are interested in. If you are going to be purchasing a used car then avoid those which have high mileage on the clock as they tend to need a lot more time being spent on maintaining them. Plus if the vehicle is no longer in production then it may well prove difficult to get replacement parts for it. Another way of comparing prices if you have time is to spend time going around a few local car dealers close to where you live. Tip 5 - Getting Your Car Finance Arranged - It is important that you spend time checking out several different sources for obtaining the finance you need to purchase your car. If you are purchasing a brand new vehicle it is not always ideal to go with the financing that the dealer can offer, sometimes through arranging your own you can actually haggle with them to get the price you actually pay for the vehicle brought down. Although you may look at several different places to obtain your financing for the car from it is important that you don't apply to them all as this will end up damaging your credit rating. A poor credit rating and you may well find that you cannot get the sum of money you want in order to purchase the car of your dreams. Tip 6 - Take The Car for a Test Drive - Although you may think you don't need to, it is sensible to take the car you are considering purchasing whether brand new or used for at least a 20 minute test drive. This way you can not only be sure that you will feel comfortable when driving it but will also be able to handle it as well. Plus it gives you a chance to see if there are any problems (especially with used cars) that may well end up costing you more to get repaired in the future. However, before you take it for a test drive then get the bonnet up and check the engine when cold. It is also crucial that you test drive the car from cold as this will help you to clearly identify any future mechanical issues. Plus after testing it and you have returned to the starting point make sure that you test that all components within the car such as electric windows, heated seats, radio etc. are working. Tip 7 - Buying a Car Online - If you intend to purchase a car through an online auction site then make sure that you ask the seller for as much information on the vehicle as you possibly. If they state they have a complete service history then ask them to provide you with proof of such. Most will be able to e-mail or fax the information that you want to you. Also carry out some research into the seller also. Look closely at the feedback they have received previously. Tip 8 - Warranties - If you are purchasing a new or used vehicle from a dealer then see what warranties it comes with. It is crucial that you actually look at the documentation relating to the warranty so you know exactly what and what isn't covered under it. If you are buying a used car and the dealer offers just a basic warranty package for the vehicle, see if for paying a little more that they can upgrade it to something a little more substantial. Although you may have to pay an extra few dollars for such it may well save you money in the future. Tip 9 - Getting Everything Documented - It is crucial when buying any car that you get everything put in writing in relation to the warranty agreement and any work that needs to be carried out prior to you getting the keys. Otherwise if you don't you won't have any recourse should you find that what was meant to be done hasn't been. Tip 10 - Getting The Keys - The majority of modern cars today will come with central locking that is operated by an electronic remote control or key. When you finally do take possession of your vehicle then make sure that you get both sets of keys for it. Remember to keep the second set safe and secure at home.